Anyway, get ready for a wall of nerdy text:
So let's say that since Bulma's car was small, with its and her weight combined, it weighed about 2,000 pounds. Are we really going to say Goku didn't even get 40x stronger after the Cell Saga? No matter how you calculate it, one thing is certain, Goku can lift 40 tons in Base Form with his dick.Dragon Ball Wiki] wrote:
If Arale can move at Mach 1, lift 100 tons, destroy the Earth in a single punch, move Earth
to Venus in a single stomp, and Akira Toriyama stated that if Goku fought Arale during the King
Piccolo Saga in Dragon Ball (at which point Goku's Power Level was 260) that he would only
probably lose to her (which suggests her Power Level is not vastly higher than 260, so we'll round
her Power Level up to 300), this means that Goku's Power Level can be calculated based on this information:
Mach 1 = PL 300
100 Tons = PL 300
If we take Goku's last officially stated Base Form Power Level (3,000,000), boost him up to SSj4, we get 12,000,000,000. Clearly his Base Form increases from before finishing his battle with Frieza to the end of Dragon Ball GT: A Hero's Legacy, but for absolute modesty we will calculate as though he never increased his power ever at all by any amount (not counting Transformation multipliers).
Okay, we have our heavily gimped Goku at 12,000,000,000. Let's start calculating strength. If it
takes 300 PL to lift 100 Tons then at that Power Level we have Goku lifting 4,000,000,000 Tons.
Next, Mach 1 is around 761 MPH but according to Wikipedia "the speed represented by Mach 1 is not a
constant." So, we'll drop it to 700 MPH for argument's sake. Rounding down, that is a speed of
28,000,000,000 MPH.
I'd like to calculate Goku's durability as well but that's too hard for me. If anyone wants to correct my calculations or cover his durability then feel free.
So Screw Attack's Goku VS Superman DEATH BATTLE had Goku at:
Lifting: 160,000 Tons
Speed: 1,599,200,000 MPH
The reality, at absolute minimum, is:
Lifting 4,000,000,000 Tons
Speed: 28,000,000,000 MPH
Mind that these are the lazy numbers I made based on Goku's minimum and look how much higher they
already are than Screw Attack's pitiful calculations. The reason for the disparity? They took Goku's
lifting power from the manga's stated 40 tons, even though that's clearly plot induced stupidity. Goku has
been shown lifting much more than 40 tons throughout the series. With a Power Level of 10 Goku lifted
and threw a car with Bulma inside. That's literally the first thing that happens in Dragon Ball.
EPA]The E.P.A.'s weight statistics show that the average weight of a 2003 car or light-duty truck wrote:4,079 pounds[/b].
I'm surprised they didn't resort to basing Goku's durability on the infamous "Goku was cut by glass" scene
in Dragon Ball GT.
Another reason for their poor results for Goku is they didn't use Power Levels nor Power Scaling
since Daizenshuu stated that "the entire point of introducing [Power Levels] was to show how
unreliable and meaningless they are." Which is actually a true statement in the most technical,
direct sense, devoid of logic and context. See, Power Levels taken at face value without taking
other information into consideration as the villains did will result in an unreliable result making
the reading unreliable and thus meaningless.
Example: Raditz assumed that since Gohan's Power Level was low that he was not a threat. This does
not take into consideration several factors, such as one's ability to change their Power Level.
This is again seen when Trunks supresses his Power Level and is not considered a threat, although
the main difference here was it was intentional because Trunks has full mastery of his own ki.
So, Raditz's low reading turned out to be unreliable seeing as Gohan raised it and hurt him. Even
after he raised it, we can still consider it a meaningless reading because even though Gohan could
now hurt Raditz in theory (and did), it didn't mean he was going to beat him just because of a higher
Power Level. His ki mastery was not developed like Trunks' was and so he could not maintain the power
through skill but only keep it as long as his emotions allowed. This means that no matter what reading
you get from Gohan, high or low, it would have been almost completely unreliable and meaningless on its
own. All Power Levels do is inform you of what current level of power a being has.
Speaking of power, even power itself is meaningless sometimes. Broly, for example, was born with a
Power Level of 10,000, higher than almost any Saiyan at the time. He, however, was of no threat to
almost anyone since he couldn't utilize the enormous power. Alternatively, a fighter with a lower
Power Level can potentially defeat stronger opponents through technique, strategy, and other means.
A good example is Guldo; although he was weaker than Gohan he could have potentially defeated him in
1-on-1 combat. Instead, both he and Krillin together had trouble against Guldo and Vegeta actually
finished him off by surprise. It defies a Power Level reading that Guldo could defeat them, which supports that relying on a Power Level alone to determine an outcome is unreliable.
I want to be clear on one issue, though; this doesn't mean that Power Levels are completely useless.
As you notice, there is a direct correlation between Power Level and potential threat and the Daizenshuu
doesn't eliminate this observable truth. A human like Hercule, despite being a martial arts master with
feats above the average person's, could still never hope to defeat Uub (in Dragon Ball Z) in a fair fight,
who was not properly trained, simply due to his overwhelming Power Level advantage over Hercule. Being a more experienced, trained, and confident warrior could never help him defeat the inexperienced, untrained, timid boy. That is how Power Levels work, it determines only raw stats like speed, strength, and durability as long as the Power Level is sustained, which aren't all that matter in a fight.
So, there is nothing wrong with Power Levels, Power Scaling or these facts. There certainly
is a problem with Screw Attack's outcome and I'd like to see someone properly go over the stats
in much more depth than I did, without being too lazy to account for Goku's increases throughout
the series.
TL;DR: I am excited for the new DBZ movie and Superman sucks and so does Screw Attack's Death Battle outcome between Goku and Superman.
Thoughts, calculations?
