Zelda Mafia Round 2 Night One (IMPORTANT, REPLACEMENT NEEDED!)

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#461

Post by Heroine of the Dragon » Wed Dec 05, 2007 11:08 pm

You keep admitting that you've judged me based on past evidence?? Yet, I was a good guy then and a good guy now, CL, and that makes you almost as suspicious as ML on my list. :p :D
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Post by Daos » Wed Dec 05, 2007 11:11 pm

I'm almost ready to vote. The only thing stopping me is I want Blake to give us a good reason NOT to if he can. I hate to kill a fellow townie but so far I'm thinking Blake is not a fellow townie.

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Post by Wyborn » Wed Dec 05, 2007 11:11 pm

Man damn this long post stuff. Damn the RPing stuff. Damn the "trying to catch you people during a lull" stuff. I have neither the time nor the patience right now. All of my points will now be ultra-condensed.

We have to hang on the first day. Might we lynch a Townie? Well, yes. I know it terrifies you guys, but Townies may end up hanging other townies.

I have three criteria for suspicion on day one:

1. Hiding. This usually comes in the form of ultra-short posts or playing the yes-man to a player more in the forefront. This is the easiest, most surefire way for the Mafia to survive. The same does not apply to Heroes: they are not trying to escape notice from the group, they are trying to blend in. (Mushi last game would be an exception)

2. Collusion. This doesn't mean agreement: it means agreement that doesn't readily make sense, which seems like it's coming from nowhere.

3. Generally suspicious behavior. This includes wildly pointing fingers, over-utilization of force of personality, and demanding evidence where it's impossible to produce some. And, oh yeah, trying to get people to abstain on the first day.

There are probably six people we have to watch out for in this game. I am ready to finger two of them.

FoS: Hottie
FoS: Blake

Yes, I'm going to vote for one of you. Once I do it, I'm not retracting my vote unless I see something really, really convincing.

Do not ask for hard evidence. You will get none.

Do not make an emotional appeal. You will not be reciprocated.

The people who continue to FoS Marilink even after his explanation are suspicious to me.

Anyone who makes an appeal that hinges on their personal character is suspicious to me.

Anyone who calls for an abstain is suspicious to me.

Anyone who attacks another player for FoSing them is suspicious to me.

Anyone who rarely posts is suspicious to me.

Anyone who does any or all of these things and then coincides with arousing a gut suspicion in the first place is someone I believe in hanging..

Vote: Heroine of the Dragon

And slow down, people, Jesus, I'm willing to let this go to as many as fifty pages but I don't want to make a new topic every day.
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Post by ZeldaGirl » Wed Dec 05, 2007 11:13 pm

Yes, I'm going to vote for one of you. Once I do it, I'm not retracting my vote unless I see something really, really convincing.

Do not ask for hard evidence. You will get none.

Do not make an emotional appeal. You will not be reciprocated.

The people who continue to FoS Marilink even after his explanation are suspicious to me.

Anyone who makes an appeal that hinges on their personal character is suspicious to me.

Anyone who calls for an abstain is suspicious to me.

Anyone who attacks another player for FoSing them is suspicious to me.

Anyone who rarely posts is suspicious to me.

Anyone who does any or all of these things and then coincides with arousing a gut suspicion in the first place is someone I believe in hanging..
Wybie, why not make it easy and just say you are suspicious of everyone ;)

:p

Hm...I don't think Hottie has done enough to merit an actual VOTE. Blake seems more suspicious to me.

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Post by Booyakasha » Wed Dec 05, 2007 11:14 pm

I'll play if needed, but it should really be as a last resort. I won't have much time to devote to the beast until the last nail's in this semester's coffin, and even then, the fast-paced nature of the game will require me to shelve my bog-standard 'post something barely coherent, then edit ten times to make it not suck' MO, and old habits die hard.
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Post by Wyborn » Wed Dec 05, 2007 11:16 pm

ZeldaGirl wrote:Wybie, why not make it easy and just say you are suspicious of everyone ;)

:p

Hm...I don't think Hottie has done enough to merit an actual VOTE. Blake seems more suspicious to me.
I'm probably making a mistake here, but I'm prioritizing Hottie over Blake for two reasons.

1. Hottie is just acting intensely defensive and suspicious.

2. Blake wants to abstain! Nobody can intentionally try to repeat what I did last turn with the same intent. Nobody is that dumb.
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Post by ZeldaGirl » Wed Dec 05, 2007 11:16 pm

^Don't do anything if you don't think you can. I'm still recruiting, and I'm sure we'll find SOMEONE.

That was for Boo.

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Post by Daos » Wed Dec 05, 2007 11:17 pm

You said yourself it's in the mafias best interests to get everyone to abstain.

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Post by ZeldaGirl » Wed Dec 05, 2007 11:17 pm

2. Blake wants to abstain! Nobody can intentionally try to repeat what I did last turn with the same intent. Nobody is that dumb.

...I wouldn't say THAT. :p

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Post by Wyborn » Wed Dec 05, 2007 11:18 pm

Daos wrote:You said yourself it's in the mafias best interests to get everyone to abstain.
Right, but I can't reconcile the idea of Blake being that dense. It doesn't click.

But then, betting on that lost me the game last time, so....

I dunno.

Is everyone else ready to vote Blake? I'm willing to vote for either person, but if I can't get Hottie hung today I am willing to compromise for a more viable target.
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Post by Saria Dragon of the Rain Wilds » Wed Dec 05, 2007 11:20 pm

Right now, as evidence and gut feelings stand, I shall say this.

FoS: Wyborn

You're too eager, you're too pushy. Voting already? We have so much time before the end of the day, and insisting you won't give hard evidence? Suspicious, boy.

FoS: Blake

If you made a mistake with the way you worded your post, you could've rectified it. Instead, you become more vague and speak with shadows on your tongue.
Nonsense, I have not yet begun to defile myself.

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Post by Apiary Tazy » Wed Dec 05, 2007 11:20 pm

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.....

HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM.....

Well, I should know better than to suspect HotD of anything really.

1. I seriously doubt someone would call that much attention to one's self without being attacked first. If she were Mafia she wouldn't just fly off the handle like that, right?!.....or would she?

That could actually pull all attention OFF her...but........

I'm still getting a sneaking suspicion she's not Mafia.

Anyway.....

After reading HotD's Post, I'm getting suspicious of Marilink trying to accuse ZG and HotD. One should never accuse two people. Or maybe he should.

On one side, if he's right, and with ZG and HotD are Mafia. We could get that much closer to winning.

But, if He's wrong, and he's a Townie. Then, everyone gets angry at him for messing up, and it's 3-0 Mafia.

Just letting you know, if ZG or HotD die before the end of Day 2...I'll try to protect you.....

Unless your Mafia, then your going down.

Now, onto Blake.

Blake has a point here....

I think we're fumbling around in the dark, accusing each other.

Or, maybe he's trying to get those that seem sure of themselves and not getting attacked.

Either way, I'm not Judging until I see a screwup.

FoSes: ZG, TML

I'm waaaaaaaaaaitiiiiiiiiiiing....

Damn it, wrong game again.

Edit: :cry: Stop going so faaaaaaast

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Post by ZeldaGirl » Wed Dec 05, 2007 11:21 pm

When I have a minute, I'll make a list, like last game...


Unless someone else wants to do it for me so that I can shower and finish this paper... ;)

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Post by Apollo the Just » Wed Dec 05, 2007 11:21 pm

@ Hottie: You are correct, of course... and I can't say anything to defend myself on that point.

Now, I don't know about the rest of you... but Blake seemed quite calm and secure when faced with all this suspicion. In my book, he doesn't seem to act like a mafioso... then again, perhaps he just hides it well... but for now, I'll do this:

Retract Fos: Blake

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Post by Heroine of the Dragon » Wed Dec 05, 2007 11:23 pm

Well, at least I'm starting to work out who the real Mafia is now... :D
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Post by ZeldaGirl » Wed Dec 05, 2007 11:23 pm

Zant Ten wrote:Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.....

HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM.....

Well, I should know better than to suspect HotD of anything really.

1. I seriously doubt someone would call that much attention to one's self without being attacked first. If she were Mafia she wouldn't just fly off the handle like that, right?!.....or would she?

That could actually pull all attention OFF her...but........

I'm still getting a sneaking suspicion she's not Mafia.

Anyway.....

After reading HotD's Post, I'm getting suspicious of Marilink trying to accuse ZG and HotD. One should never accuse two people. Or maybe he should.

On one side, if he's right, and with ZG and HotD are Mafia. We could get that much closer to winning.

But, if He's wrong, and he's a Townie. Then, everyone gets angry at him for messing up, and it's 3-0 Mafia.

Just letting you know, if ZG or HotD die before the end of Day 2...I'll try to protect you.....

Unless your Mafia, then your going down.

Now, onto Blake.

Blake has a point here....

I think we're fumbling around in the dark, accusing each other.

Or, maybe he's trying to get those that seem sure of themselves and not getting attacked.

Either way, I'm not Judging until I see a screwup.

FoSes: ZG, TML

I'm waaaaaaaaaaitiiiiiiiiiiing....

Damn it, wrong game again.

Edit: :cry: Stop going so faaaaaaast

WAIT WAIT WAIT:


1) NO EDITING POSTS! GAH!

2)... what the hell does this actually say...


FoS: TAZY for incomprehensible blather

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Post by Wyborn » Wed Dec 05, 2007 11:26 pm

Saria Dragon wrote: FoS: Wyborn

You're too eager, you're too pushy. Voting already? We have so much time before the end of the day, and insisting you won't give hard evidence? Suspicious, boy.
See the previous: there is no hard evidence to be presented. Demanding it is not only unreasonable, it's insane, a method of preventing any action whatsoever.

And yes, I'm impatient. Can't be helped. Days are too long, post limits in these topics are too short. I'm already willing to break administrative rule and let this double the normal page count.

Your call for hard evidence is ridiculous: it puts your name on the list, just not as firmly as your sister's.

I fail to understand why anyone would drop fingers of suspicion on either Hottie or Blake.
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Post by Daos » Wed Dec 05, 2007 11:27 pm

Although I have not dropped my suspicions towards Wyborn I know where he is coming from. The first few days last round ended with no lynches when the townies could have been making progress. I more then understand not wanting to make a wrong decision but indecision could also spell certain doom. With that said I REALLY should be headed to bed and HOPEFULLY I will not have to work over so much tommorow so I can check back on this topic before it sprouts another 15 or so pages. I'll go ahead and take some initiative though and get the ball rolling before I do go to bed.

Vote: Blake

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Post by Wyborn » Wed Dec 05, 2007 11:27 pm

DOUBLEPOST:

And yeah, implying that you're already working out who the real Mafia is? On day one? That's not suspicious at all.

My vote for Heroine of the Dragon stands.
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Post by ZeldaGirl » Wed Dec 05, 2007 11:28 pm

I could argue that I still find ML highly suspicious, yet you dropped your finger without so much as a second thought. I could say that's bad, too.

(Just saying, Wybie. :p )

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