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The universe

Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2003 11:47 pm
by The Cat
This subject came up in my social studies class the other day. Have you ever thought about the origin of the universe and what will eventually become of it in the future?

As a Christian, I believe that God created the universe. (though it probably took several million years on Earth before Adam and Eve appeared as opposed to what it says in Genesis).

Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2003 12:03 am
by Ace Mercury
I have thought about it. Basically, the creation (if it was created) and destruction (should it be destroyed) is a mystery to me.

I believe in the Big Bang theory, but even that has its limitations. I also believe in the Big Crunch, the Static Model, and the heat death of the universe as viable situations which the universe will play out to. Even so, I don't want to make any real choices, because I will be most likely wrong, with my limited knowledge of astrophysics.

Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2003 12:26 am
by imported_mango
I believe God created the universe. End of story.

Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2003 5:39 pm
by imported_Parrakarry
Big Bang makes sense, but NOT Big Crunch.

There's this new theory floating around that the universe is flat. :rolleyes: Jeez. We've heard THAT one before.

Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2003 7:20 pm
by heh
I Belive That God Created The Big Bang.
Big Bang makes sense, but NOT Big Crunch.
Agreed.
There's this new theory floating around that the universe is flat. Jeez. We've heard THAT one before.
*Laughs*

Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2003 10:27 pm
by Marioman143
I think the Big Bang is how it happened, although how the big bang got a chance to happen is the problem.

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Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2003 10:49 pm
by The Cat
^ Exactly. The main question that perplexes me is what exactly happened before the universe was created. Has God and the universe existed for an infinite amount of time with no beginning or end and the universe has been in a constant cycle for eternity? (Big bang to big crunch etc.)

[ December 02, 2003, 08:53 PM: Message edited by: Yami Yoshi ]

Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2003 10:57 pm
by Marioman143
Yeah...I'm a believer (Roman Catholic, confirmed and all that nice stuff) but I really don't let it get in the way of my scienitific studies. But there, you make a point of religion, which does work.

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Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2003 11:04 pm
by AJ Middleton
I don't like the Big Bang, because it still tries to explain the start of the universe. I am a solid believer that the all-mighty universe was ALWAYS there and will always be there. Perhaps the Big Bang created a part of it (a few galaxies,) but it definitely didn't create it all.

I think that the start of everything was quite simple. Time breaks/loops/dimensional splits/warps may seem facinating, but I believe it's all too complicated for something that just isn't.

Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2003 12:08 am
by theflyingfish
Doesn't the Big Bang theory state that the universe was always existant, just confined to a miniscular area?

Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2003 12:22 am
by AJ Middleton
You know, I dunno WHAT the Big Bang states, since it's such a loose theory.

Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2003 1:00 am
by Ace Mercury
Well, to understand the universe, I think we need to have a firm grasp of the fabric of space-time (amoung other things). I do not, therefore I do not understand the universe.

Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2003 6:32 pm
by Marioman143
Well, no one does Ace. No one has ever or will ever understand Time/Space in our time. Or our children's time. Or even our grandchildren's time. Hell, we may never know!

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Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2003 2:38 pm
by imported_Cravdraa
The big bang theory states that the universe started as an infinately small point. At that density physics, quantum physics, space and time simply don't exist. It would be impossible to track anything before this point because for one, time doesn't exist, and for two, none of the rules of our universe apply. In that sense it's not really a creation theory because it doesn't try to explain where the universe came from or why or even how so much as describe it's first moments of existance.

Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2003 9:48 pm
by Marioman143
Basically it states the universe was once the size of a hyrdogen atom. It could work if the thing was infintely dense in it's compostition, but it would be millions of time denser than things such as a neutron star.

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