COMMUNITY IS BACK!
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COMMUNITY IS BACK!
Community season 5 is hot-and-fresh-out-the-kitchen with Dan Harmon back as the fearless leader of the show, and judging from the first two episodes, everything is back to normal.
The show is really funny again because there are actual jokes, unlike season 4 in which lines had the cadence of a joke but never really worked out.
The second episode of the season might end up being one of my favorite episodes of the show any season. I'd go into detail but I don't want to spoil anything.
The show is really funny again because there are actual jokes, unlike season 4 in which lines had the cadence of a joke but never really worked out.
The second episode of the season might end up being one of my favorite episodes of the show any season. I'd go into detail but I don't want to spoil anything.
and that's the waaaaaaaaaay the news goes
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I still don't know...I'm kind of shaking my head at the dark, bleak, depressing turn this show's taken. I only counted like three or four laughs in the entire episode (including Abed's lying about being "cool cool cool"). It just doesn't feel like Community has the creativity, spontaneity, or playfulness it used to have.
*Sigh,* I remember when the show used to be more about community college and less about the characters' psyches.
However, I will say that Troy's catharsis at the end was worth waiting for. Chivalric!
*Sigh,* I remember when the show used to be more about community college and less about the characters' psyches.
However, I will say that Troy's catharsis at the end was worth waiting for. Chivalric!
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Yeah, if you only laughed 4 times, you missed a crap-ton of jokes. I actually think there were more laughs-per-minute this episode than the previous ones.
I really think this episode was the most solid we've seen yet (yeah, even better than Introduction to Teaching and ABC). It moved the story along and gave us awesome character development (something lacking last season).
And the show has ALWAYS been about the character's psyches.
I really think this episode was the most solid we've seen yet (yeah, even better than Introduction to Teaching and ABC). It moved the story along and gave us awesome character development (something lacking last season).
And the show has ALWAYS been about the character's psyches.
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Season 2 was still the best, IMHO.
The show is really becoming less like a sitcom and more like high art. It's cold, dark, bleak, distant, and when I do laugh, it's painful. I mean, how are you supposed to laugh when the characters keep getting angry with and critical of each other in ways they didn't used to get? It's just not the same show. That's probably why there are fewer and fewer viewers with every season.
And they could've done without the cryogenically frozen semen or Chang's awkwardly-timed interlude about touching himself.
Now, now, I didn't say the show never dealt with the character psyches...it used to be ALSO about the fun classes and bizarre scenarios they got themselves into, the variety between the episodes. There used to be more cultural pastiches that even Tarantino himself would be proud of, and that's what made Community so unique: the pastiche of plot elements AND the pastiche of personalities. They reflected each other in a way.ZeldaGirl wrote:And the show has ALWAYS been about the character's psyches.
The show is really becoming less like a sitcom and more like high art. It's cold, dark, bleak, distant, and when I do laugh, it's painful. I mean, how are you supposed to laugh when the characters keep getting angry with and critical of each other in ways they didn't used to get? It's just not the same show. That's probably why there are fewer and fewer viewers with every season.
And they could've done without the cryogenically frozen semen or Chang's awkwardly-timed interlude about touching himself.
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I mean, I personally think you're way off-base, KR. The entire premise of the show is dark and cynical - that's always been Harmon's MO, and there have been plenty of episodes dedicated to exploring the dark places characters might go (Remedial Chaos Theory, anyone?). But at the end of it, there is also heart. The fact that you would watch this episode and completely ignore the culmination of Pierce's final questions makes me wonder if you're really paying attention (I mean, besides the fact you only laughed four times ;) ).
Like I said, if that's what you think, fair enough, but I have to wonder what you've been watching all along. Yeah, Community is famous for it's references and send-ups, but what you are describing is nothing new to the series, and has been there all along.
Like I said, if that's what you think, fair enough, but I have to wonder what you've been watching all along. Yeah, Community is famous for it's references and send-ups, but what you are describing is nothing new to the series, and has been there all along.
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No, I didn't ignore the final questions--that was worth watching, too--but I guess what darkness and cynicism you say has always been there has been communicated in more subtle ways until now. In fact, I saw the whole Six Timelines paradox as nothing more than a convoluted genre/stylistic parody.
That's probably one of the reasons why I never saw the show as dark and cynical before. There's this article I read that said the darkness and cynicism was an undercurrent waiting for its time to show its true colors.
That's probably one of the reasons why I never saw the show as dark and cynical before. There's this article I read that said the darkness and cynicism was an undercurrent waiting for its time to show its true colors.
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