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Post by Falco53 » Sat Dec 13, 2003 7:28 pm

The show was a horrendous mess. The annoying kids were totally unneccessary, the animation was half-done most of the time, and then there's the minicons.

The minicons were supposed to boost power so greatly that blah blah blah. The minicons only boosted powers greatly when the writers (if this show had any) saw fit. New weapons were constantly downplayed by the discovery of another new weapon. This is typical of anime (look at DBZ) but in Transformers Armada it is totally inconsistent. Supposedly "powerful" weapons were less effective than "less powerful" weapons all throughout the show.

The battles were usually just plain stupid, no one ever got hurt.

Ah, the Unicron Battles. They were quite a refreshing change despite the fact that Unicron himself was lame. The animation was actually done all of the way, the kids had a more minor role, and the Optimus/Galvitron-Megatron was actually good. The worst part other than the kids existence in the Unicron Battles would be that Unicron never actually did anything wrong, unless defending yourself from laser blasts is wrong. He should have blown up a planet or something.

In short, Transformers: Armada is Pokemon in Transformer's clothing. The ending didn't redeem the entire show, but it was good on its own. I reccomend watching the ending by itself.
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Post by Lurch1982 » Sun Dec 14, 2003 1:42 am

I think they should have killed off more of the damn characters, and brought in more characters. I think I missed the last episode, and I'm not really sure I care. Unicron sucked. Sorry. Orson Wells rocked as the voice. Sideways being some incarnation of Unicron was stupid, and I think they should have been fighting on Cybertron far more than they were. Those obnoxious kids? Cut their screentime by like 90%. Sure, they can be somewhat cool every so often, but I DO NOT CARE ABOUT DUMB KIDS SIR. The early episodes were dumb, and they should have killed off most of the original decepticons (except Starscream, who should have bought it half-way through, and Megatron, who should die at the end). Lame. I think I'll dig up my G1 tapes and the movie to watch something GOOD. The whole franchise has been going down since Beastwars ended. At least Beastwars was cool and evolved into a good show where characters ACTUALLY DIED. Sickening. I wonder how you get a writer job for the Transformers now? Oh wait! I know! Rip off every other popular kids show and take a cool concept and make it dumb. They should have realized from the tail-end of G1 that power-amplifying mini robots are garbage. At least in that case, they turned into heads or guns. The mini-con concept was really cool, but they ignored them for the most part and then used them at the end as a basic deus ex machina (literary term: look it up).

Out of 10, I'd give the series about a 6. Sure, it was terrible, but it wasn't as bad as Beast Machines. For reference, BM would get a 3, G1 gets a 10, BWs gets an 8.5.

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Post by jbboo » Sun Dec 14, 2003 4:43 am

I had a somewhat long post, but my computer froze right before I sent it! :mad: :mad: :mad:

Long story short....
Last episode of Armada: good
Series as a whole: Sucked like the pit!

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Post by Falco53 » Sun Dec 14, 2003 11:15 am

So can anyone think of any other characters that died? Oh, wait, Thrust died, did Sideways dies? That makes a grand total of four (I'll count Unicron if Sideways didn't die). Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying a show sucks just because characters don't die, but no one even got hurt usually. Starscream and Megatron/Galvatron, both were Decepticons and they both sacrificed themselve's for the good of the transformers. To quote Strongbad: "What the Crap?!" Good guys can't die, obviously, that would make the kids (Kids on the show or kids watching it, depending on you viewpoint) cry. Bad guys can't even die while being evil, they have to sacrifice themselves to save the universe.

To quote Strongbad again, I have a message for the writers of Armada: "You lazy crap-for-crap!"

Hopefully Energon (sp?) will be good. They promised no little kids, except one teenager that has a minor role. They have promised it won't be the garbage that Armada was, despite that it's a sequel to it. If they are lying, I going to learn the ancient art of Shinsaken Kung-Fu and then I'm going to rip their "ears" off.
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Post by Lurch1982 » Mon Dec 15, 2003 4:53 am

Yes, because the show isn't really worth sitting through wondering.

I thought it was lame that all the ones that they "thought" died magically come back. Stupid stupid stupid. Take a lesson from the 1980s....killing off characters forces people to buy the NEW COOLER toys. Come on, I had hope for the series when Hoist originally died, but HE COMES BACK. WTF. Want to see a cool way to kill transformers? Watch the first 30 minutes of the movie. Every old character DEAD. Except the dinobots and perceptor and some decepticons. Wheeljack? DEAD. Ironhide? DEAD. Ratchet? DEAD. Brawn? DEAD. Starscream? DEAD. Prime? DEAD. Prowl? FRIED AND DEAD. Sure, its a sudden and seemingly lame way to slaughter characters, but it is effective. They should have brought in more characters, played around with people other than prime getting hurt, had injuries, and DEATHS. HOW CAN YOU HAVE A WAR WITH NO DEATHS. Death gives depth to your characters. The parachute effect (as seen in most shows, referring to how pilots always manage to bail out at the last second in cartoons) is dumb and should have died once the show went to cartoon network. AND PLEASE. NO MORE TEAMS OF KIDS. WHEN THE KIDS OUTNUMBER TRANSFORMERS, YOU HAVE A PROBLEM. Also, take some lessons from character designs and voices. No more bumbling idiot decepticons PLEASE. For the record, cyclonus should have been fragged by episode three. Obnoxious waste of a cool name.

Hopefully the next incarnation is better, and hopefully they discard most of these characters.

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Post by give me food » Tue Dec 16, 2003 12:03 am

I MISS MEGATRON
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Post by Wyborn » Tue Dec 16, 2003 4:18 am

I've watched Transformers since the day I was born. I fell in love with Optimus Prime before I had a clear idea of who Superman was. Optimus Prime was my first hero, my ultimate hero, my idol. The Transformers were the first epic battle between good and eivl I ever witnessed. It shaped my childhood. It had a heavy influence on my life.

This is not the Transformers.

Anybody remember how, in Transformers: The Movie, Optimus barreled through Autobot City and blew away somethign like twenty Decepticons in a show of bad-ass and skill unmatched in any animated TV show prior? How he and Megatron fought to the bitter end, tooth and nail, and Optimus won...even after being gutshot thanks to his hesitation to kill Hot Rod and Megatron? I cried when Optimus died. When Unicron's massive, conintent-sized hand fell upon Cybertron for the first time, i was horrified beyond words. When Galvatron reduced Starscream to a pile of ashes, I was so stunned I couldnt' sit still. Maybe it had something to do with my bakcground with them, but the Transformers has always been emotional, or believable - or, at the very least, fun.

Transformers Armada is a travesty. Watching the death of Optimus on Armada showed me how wrong something can be made: instead of a tearful goodbye from a wounded leader whose last wish was for his friends and troops to survive, even before they shoudl win, I get...this. Just...God. And Hotshot's ascension to power was even worse than Hot Rod's (and I hate Hot Rod, I hateh im to Hell). Seeing the way they portrayed Unicron...

I look back at the wondrous world of the Transformers. I have the first two seasons on DVD.

I look at Transformers Armada today.

Upon comparing them, I think of the creators of Armada, and it's a cancer I wish on them - one that is inoperable andl asts a very long time.

Oh, God help us. Unicron was a god and now he is nothing....
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Post by Wyborn » Tue Dec 16, 2003 4:19 am

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