Goku: Who's stronger than him?!

[Wyborn]

Goku would kick the asses of Vash and Knives and Kratos and a bunch of other people mentioned in this topic, but some others would be able to take him depending on what you accept as being canon.

Galactus would probably be disqualified for the same reasons as Unicron, I'm guessing...

I'm going to say that Buu could kill Goku on his own, for instance.

[PK FIRE!]

You know he does have a bit of a point, if Goku is allowed all his uber power then so should his challengers be allowed all thier power.

This means that Kefka is still in the running and is allowed use of his out of combat power the light of judgment. A blast fired from his hand or finger that can carve massive trenches in the earth, oblitrate cities, and Strecht across hemispheres of a globe.

Also on the subject of Goku's full power, I still say that if Goku is so strong that his power can blow up nearby planets that going to his max would kill him, and most likely destroy the planet he's on.

- You stupid dog!

[I REALLY HATE POKEMON!]

Sorry I am posting in slow bits. I am using a PSP, gimme a break!

Heh, er, calm down, we're all buds right? I just meant Vash's beam only marked the moon while Master Roshi destroyed it easily and still fought & beat Goku...BTW, Goku = speed of light = fastest.

[Galefore]

Okay, let's move this to a technical point:

GOKU ****ING SUCKS. Toriyama is a hack for creating another goddamn superman. I cannot stand any character with too much power and too many abilities, and as such I consider him unbalanced. Sorry, that's just my opinion. I'm afraid any argument for him is pretty invalid to me because, admittedly, I'm pretty biased towards any****ingthing that isn't Dragon Ball Z.

[Apiary Tazy]

IRHP is trying to make Goku cooler than everything, by forcing his power down your throats.....

[Wyborn]

Yeah

Take a chill pill there hombre

Have a tall glass of coke and smile

[Calamity Panfan]

You wanna know how Goku isn't Godmode character?

He died. Three times.

From people who were stronger.

[I REALLY HATE POKEMON!]

But you shoot down characters that could feasibly have a chance and have weaknesses, like Vash, Phoenix, and Kratos.

Kratos could win after he is given the greatest of powers he receives in the course of the games. While Goku is busy doing a stereotypical anime monologue, Kratos would mercilessly cut him to shreds.

Cut up Goku? Ever see Goku block Trunks' sword with ONE finger? It is neat.

[Galefore]

Oh ho, sarcasm. My whole argument has fallen apart, and I can never pick it up!

^That's just ridiculous. In our circles, we call that "God-mode", or "****ing stupid." I give up on you, you're hopeless. Go find a balanced, likable character, and maybe we'll talk.

Also, Panfan is right. But of course, you'll use your superiority complex to shoot that down too. "OMG BUT HE GOT STRUNGER HUR HUR SPEED OF LIGHT"

[Wyborn]

Oh ho, sarcasm. My whole argument has fallen apart, and I can never pick it up!

^That's just ridiculous. In our circles, we call that "God-mode", or "****ing stupid." I give up on you, you're hopeless. Go find a balanced, likable character, and maybe we'll talk.

Also, Panfan is right. But of course, you'll use your superiority complex to shoot that down too. "OMG BUT HE GOT STRUNGER HUR HUR SPEED OF LIGHT"

Hey

How about discussing things with him instead of exploding like an eight-year-old? It's an argument about who would beat up who involving a DBZ character. The least you can do is bring some cold objectivity to the table.

[Galefore]

^Excuse me, I do believe our friend here is the one acting like a child. It's like those damned arguments in grade school in the school yard. You can't win, because in our dear friends logic, ITS GOKU OMG.

And if you didn't notice, I'm now using his useless tactic of merely disagreeing without ANY backing. I'm seeing if it works.

NEWSFLASH: IT MOTHER****ING DOES NOT

So yeah. Now you're both getting a failing grade. Go back to class.

[I REALLY HATE POKEMON!]

Wy, Buu would never touch SSj4 Goku, I mean, in DBZ he would but I count GT. Also, who's forcing what down whose throats? That's not my intention at all. I just made a debate/game topic with what I thought to be fair rules. Hm...

[Swordmaster Link]

Ahem

^
^ Even with objectivity though, isn't the entire debate kind of grade school-ish? It's kind of hard to compare characters from different works of fiction.

[Galefore]

GT is, by definition, non-canon, since DB was supposed to end with Cell.

^Ah, some common sense. Thank you for refreshing my nerves; I always knew at least one of my fellow mods was sensible.

[Wyborn]

Galefore: don't act like a jerk. Uncool. It's a stupid argument. Stop getting worked up over it.

IRHP: I never really took GT as being canon, but if we count it then I guess I have to acquiesce.

I'll throw out some more later.

^
^ Even with objectivity though, isn't the entire debate kind of grade school-ish? It's kind of hard to compare characters from different works of fiction.

Yeah, obviously. But that doesn't justify yelling in caps and swearing like a twelve-year-old who just learned how to work AIM and realized people can't tell his mom what he's up to.

[Galefore]

but omg wy its goku

^Oh ho, personal insults! I like, you're proving your worth! Too bad none of that applies without gross exaggeration. Remember, I'm merely miming IRHP to see if I can win with his little game.

[Swordmaster Link]

No, thats just my point Wy. That was basically my way of saying "chill, we're talking about how fictional characters would beat the crap out of each other...not a big deal either way".

[I REALLY HATE POKEMON!]

GT is, by definition, non-canon, since DB was supposed to end with Cell.

^Ah, some common sense. Thank you for refreshing my nerves; I always knew at least one of my fellow mods was sensible.

Well, I understand where it should have ended. Infact, I hear it should have ended with Cell. But I certainly count Buu Saga too.

[Wyborn]

Gale: I'm not insulting you. I'm saying you're getting worked up for no reason and acting completely inappropriate, which you are.

SML: Gotcha. Roger that.

[Galefore]

Fine, fine. I apologize to you guys, I lost my head. I'll calm down and try throwing some more characters out there. Maybe I'll finally find one that's immune to BUT ITS GOKU logic.