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Post by Kil'jaeden » Sun Feb 08, 2015 12:59 pm

I would not cite Freud, lest you open yourself to mockery based on his other ideas. Freud also thought that females naturally grew up in envy of males until the feeling was suppressed at a later stage of development. He even had a particular term for it.

I actually don't mind about the remake. It won't be the original one even if they have men in the main roles. It won't be able to replace it, and I doubt it will be better. Gender swapping the main characters may make it more interesting than a standard remake, if only for novelty. In my personal opinion, I would have it remade by the entire cast and production team of Twilight. That would be the best way to make everyone mad at once.
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Post by I REALLY HATE POKEMON! » Sun Feb 08, 2015 1:14 pm

^ Yeah, Freud's controversial but I think most of his ideas make sense. Sure, there's some like the whole wanting to bang your parents thing I don't agree with but you can't always be right.

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Post by Booyakasha » Sun Feb 08, 2015 1:57 pm

I REALLY HATE POKEMON!, post: 1517329, member: 18119 wrote:Ultraviolet with Milla
Man, I've never even heard of someone other than me liking 'Ultraviolet' before.

...are we soulmates? I'm not sure about the procedure here.
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Post by I REALLY HATE POKEMON! » Sun Feb 08, 2015 10:12 pm

^ What's wrong with Alien Resurrection? Between the creepy human/alien hybrid baby getting sucked out a tiny hole into space whilst screaming a "mommy" in a nightmarish voice thanks to its own mother, and the most badass cripple to ever grace a sci-fi flick without feeling like a SJW forced it in...I just don't understand the hate it gets.

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Post by Deepfake » Mon Feb 09, 2015 2:57 am

[QUOTE="Booyakasha, post: 1517342, member: 17381"]Man, I've never even heard of someone other than me liking 'Ultraviolet' before.

...are we soulmates? I'm not sure about the procedure here.[/QUOTE]
Ultraviolet was so confusing. It had some CGI that was so bad it was good, it had about as much story as Equilibrium only felt less full, and Underworld just did it better overall. I don't regret having seen it, though.[DOUBLEPOST=1423465064,1423464823][/DOUBLEPOST]The Terminator with a woman could be really cool, actually, kind of like Species only more aggro. I'd like to see an alternate one where they try to solve the paradox and the one that's sent back is somewhere between the 800 and the 1000.
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Post by I REALLY HATE POKEMON! » Mon Feb 09, 2015 3:01 am

Well, I'm just a Milla Jovovich fan. She is the best female actress for any type of action/adventure role. She's scary, too, she has a look like she's actually able to kick your ass, a believableness that is often missing with heroines, IMO.

Michelle Rodriguez comes in a close second so Resident Evil kicks ass for the "strong" woman issue. They're a let down if you're a purist but otherwise fun.[DOUBLEPOST=1423465265,1423465191][/DOUBLEPOST]^ Terminator 3 had a female enemy Terminator. Passable villain but no comparison to T2's, so I figure the same would apply to heroes.

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Post by CaptHayfever » Mon Feb 09, 2015 9:47 am

^"Passable, but no comparison to T2" could describe everything about T3, not just the villain.

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Post by I REALLY HATE POKEMON! » Mon Feb 09, 2015 10:09 am

^ I agree mostly. It had great action scenes and Arnold is always great. Otherwise, yeah.

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Post by Booyakasha » Tue Feb 10, 2015 11:01 am

[QUOTE="I REALLY HATE POKEMON!, post: 1517394, member: 18119"]^ What's wrong with Alien Resurrection? Between the creepy human/alien hybrid baby getting sucked out a tiny hole into space whilst screaming a "mommy" in a nightmarish voice thanks to its own mother, and the most badass cripple to ever grace a sci-fi flick without feeling like a SJW forced it in...I just don't understand the hate it gets.[/QUOTE]

You know, I was in highschool when last I saw it, or 'Alien ^3', for that matter. Maybe I need to give them both another watch, now that I'm a terrible old man who hates everything as a matter of course. It'd only be fair.

('Aliens' is still bad, though. I mean, it's great, I love it, but I hate it. Going from Ridley Scott to James Cameron-------just ick. Ick forever. You know? Like, 'Alien' was art----------'Aliens' was a good movie. There's a real important distinction to be made.)

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Post by Deepfake » Tue Feb 10, 2015 11:39 am

[QUOTE="Booyakasha, post: 1517700, member: 17381"]('Aliens' is still bad, though. I mean, it's great, I love it, but I hate it. Going from Ridley Scott to James Cameron-------just ick. Ick forever. You know? Like, 'Alien' was art----------'Aliens' was a good movie. There's a real important distinction to be made.)[/QUOTE]
I second this. To be honest, Alien didn't scare me in the least but it's also beautifully made. Aliens was more like a Starship Troopers adaptation than anything.

By the way, I really think you would like Moon by Duncan Jones, if you haven't seen it. I'm not completely sure why I thought of it, but it has a good suspense to it that is evocative of that period in horror.
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Post by I REALLY HATE POKEMON! » Tue Feb 10, 2015 11:54 am

What you guys say about Prometheus? I loved it. I want another, plus AvP 3 and Alien VS Predator VS Terminator (as a trilogy, preferably). Maybe throw RoboCop in there, or somewhere.

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Post by Booyakasha » Tue Feb 10, 2015 11:56 am

Oh man. Like, as far as I'm concerned, James Cameron is more a scarily-talented hype-man than an artist. He'll take an excellent niche film, say, a 'First Blood', an 'Alien', a 'Terminator', and make a dumbed-down broad-appeal sequel that makes way, way more money.

He's kind of a genius, in a way. He's used his genuine cinematic talent (and he is talented, please don't let's dispute this) to create perfect middle-of-the-road mediocrity, and the mediocre middle-of-the-road audience has just gobbled it up, and it's netted him literal billions. I can respect that.

...I mean, don't mistake me, he's going to hell when he dies, and he deserves it, but still I can respect his money-making acumen.

[EDIT:^^I've been meaning to check out 'Moon' for literal years, here. I get distracted easily outside of a movie theatre, is what it is. And yet I don't like going to theatres, owing to the expense and sheer volume of people. Catch-22.

[EDIT2:^Haven't seen 'Prometheus', either. Same reasons. I'm a pretty sh*tty cineaste, come right to it. Either need to start watching movies that interest me or just give up and look at Transformers flicks whilst gobbling Jujubes like the rest of the cattle.

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Post by I REALLY HATE POKEMON! » Tue Feb 10, 2015 12:42 pm

^ Same here. $3.00 for bottled water, crammed into a loud, dark space filled with people I don't like, with a lottery chance off being shot to death? No thanks. Hate theaters. I only go when I feel obligated or if I just NEED to see a certain movie.

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Post by Deepfake » Tue Feb 10, 2015 1:00 pm

[QUOTE="I REALLY HATE POKEMON!, post: 1517707, member: 18119"]What you guys say about Prometheus? [/QUOTE]
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Post by Valigarmander » Tue Feb 10, 2015 5:06 pm

[QUOTE="I REALLY HATE POKEMON!, post: 1517329, member: 18119"]I disagree. I think that was just 6,000 years of normalcy. It's how humans are as a species. Or were at least.[/QUOTE]
Are the two mutually exclusive? Slavery was a normal part of humanity for the better part of 10,000 years. It wasn't until the last few centuries that it changed from being accepted almost everywhere to being maligned almost everywhere. Maybe sexism and the desire to subjugate are "normal" for humans, but that doesn't mean they're not wrong or shouldn't be overcome.

[QUOTE="I REALLY HATE POKEMON!, post: 1517340, member: 18119"]^ Yeah, Freud's controversial but I think most of his ideas make sense. Sure, there's some like the whole wanting to bang your parents thing I don't agree with but you can't always be right.[/QUOTE]
Freud holds a marginal position (if even that) in modern psychology.

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Post by I REALLY HATE POKEMON! » Tue Feb 10, 2015 5:24 pm

^ Slavery isn't a natural occurrence, it's a societal construct. Make/female relations are different.

Dunno where Freud stands today. I am only familiar with old scientists, philosophers, ect.

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Post by Kil'jaeden » Tue Feb 10, 2015 5:48 pm

[QUOTE="Valigarmander, post: 1517824, member: 30663"]Are the two mutually exclusive? Slavery was a normal part of humanity for the better part of 10,000 years. It wasn't until the last few centuries that it changed from being accepted almost everywhere to being maligned almost everywhere. Maybe sexism and the desire to subjugate are "normal" for humans, but that doesn't mean they're not wrong or shouldn't be overcome.[/QUOTE]

Does any other creature do this? How could anything overcome its own nature? Why should we give up what is "normal" for us?
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Post by I am nobody » Tue Feb 10, 2015 5:51 pm

No other creature builds houses or understands medicine, but I think we can all agree that overcoming the "natural" state of living naked and dying of smallpox was an improvement.

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Post by Booyakasha » Tue Feb 10, 2015 5:57 pm

Freud's theories are interesting, but have literally no scientific backing. One can subscribe to his concept of id/ego/superego, just as one might accept the Ten Commandments, Plato's idea of the world of Forms, the Buddhist Four Noble Truths, or the Scientologists' eight levels of reality, but it's hard to take any of it as objective fact witbout making a bunch of assumptions.

I suppose he was influential in the early days of psychology, but in the end his ideas and methods are about as useful to modern psychologists as, like, the ancient Greeks' idea about the sun being carried across the sky in a flaming chariot is to modern astronomers. (Also he probably did a lot of damage, advocating the medical use of cocaine. Not entirely his fault, that-------lots of people were advocating that at the time. But still.)
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Post by Kil'jaeden » Tue Feb 10, 2015 6:15 pm

[QUOTE="I am nobody, post: 1517829, member: 34539"]No other creature builds houses or understands medicine, but I think we can all agree that overcoming the "natural" state of living naked and dying of smallpox was an improvement.[/QUOTE]

Completely missing the point. What I wanted to ultimately point at is the hypocrisy of those that say on one hand "humans are just another animal" while on the other hand, they make up all sorts of standards they expect humans to hold to. You don't see anything else worrying about this sort of thing. They all go about their lives, following their natures without complaint.

I would actually say that what we have right now is just an outgrowth of the natural state for humans. Living naked and dying of smallpox are not necessary for us, so it does not apply to what I am talking about.
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